Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 17

03/24/2015 10:15 AM House ENERGY



Audio Topic
10:16:34 AM Start
10:17:05 AM HB118
10:32:14 AM Presentation: Resources Energy, Inc.
11:58:44 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Presentation: TELECONFERENCED
"REI Alaska-Japan LNG Project" by Mary Ann
Pease, Vice President & Anchorage General
Manager, Resources Energy, Inc.
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 118 MUNI ENERGY IMPROVEMNT ASSESSMNTS/BONDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 118(ENE) Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                         March 24, 2015                                                                                         
                           10:16 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jim Colver, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Liz Vazquez, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Benjamin Nageak                                                                                                  
Representative David Talerico                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 118                                                                                                              
"An  Act adopting  the Municipal  Property Assessed  Clean Energy                                                               
Act; authorizing  municipalities to establish programs  to impose                                                               
assessments  for energy  improvements  in  regions designated  by                                                               
municipalities;  imposing fees;  and providing  for an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 118(ENE) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  RESOURCES ENERGY~ INC.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 118                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MUNI ENERGY IMPROVEMNT ASSESSMNTS/BONDS                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GENE THERRIAULT,  Deputy Director for Energy  Policy and Outreach                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority                                                                                                         
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Speaking on  behalf of  the administration,                                                             
explained  changes in  the proposed  committee substitute  for HB
118.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARY ANN PEASE, Vice President & General Manager                                                                                
Resources Energy, Inc.                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided  a PowerPoint presentation entitled                                                             
"REI Update" and dated 3/24/15.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
EIJI MAEZAWA, Executive Vice President & Chief Operating Officer                                                                
Resources Energy, Inc.                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated  in the PowerPoint presentation                                                             
by Resources Energy, Inc.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR JIM COLVER called the  House Special Committee on Energy                                                             
meeting  to   order  at  10:16  a.m.     Representatives  Nageak,                                                               
Talerico, Tilton,  Vazquez, and Colver  were present at  the call                                                               
to  order.    Representatives  Wool and  Claman  arrived  as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
         HB 118-MUNI ENERGY IMPROVEMNT ASSESSMNTS/BONDS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:17:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE  BILL NO. 118,  "An Act adopting the  Municipal Property                                                               
Assessed   Clean  Energy   Act;  authorizing   municipalities  to                                                               
establish programs to impose  assessments for energy improvements                                                               
in  regions  designated  by municipalities;  imposing  fees;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:18:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   VAZQUEZ  moved   to  adopt   the  proposed   committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)   for  HB  118,  labeled   29-GH1021\W,  Shutts,                                                               
3/21/15, as the work draft.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:18:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:18:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GENE THERRIAULT, Deputy Director  for Energy Policy and Outreach,                                                               
Alaska Energy Authority (AEA),  Department of Commerce, Community                                                               
& Economic  Development (DCCED),  reminded the committee  that at                                                               
the hearing  on 3/17/15, two  proposed amendments to HB  118 were                                                               
incorporated into one  motion and adopted.  However,  in order to                                                               
explain how  both amendments  were included in  Version W  of the                                                               
bill,  he addressed  both of  the amendments  separately as  they                                                               
were labeled  on 3/17/15.   The amendment previously  labeled 29-                                                               
GH1021\A. 1, Shutts, 3/11/15 read:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 5:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
       "* Section 1. AS 29.10.200 is amended by adding a                                                                      
     new paragraph to read:                                                                                                     
               (65) AS 29.49 (energy improvement assessment                                                                     
     programs)."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 10, following line 12:                                                                                                
     Insert a new section to read:                                                                                              
          "Sec. 29.49.890. Application of chapter. This                                                                     
          chapter applies to home rule and general law                                                                          
     municipalities."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. THERRIAULT said the first  part of the foregoing amendment is                                                               
found  in the  proposed CS  on page  1, lines  6 and  7, and  the                                                               
second part appears on page 10,  beginning on line 31; AEA agreed                                                               
that   the  language   of  the   amendment   has  been   properly                                                               
incorporated  into the  bill.   The amendment  previously labeled                                                               
29-GH1021\A.3, Shutts, 3/16/15 read:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, lines 9 - 10:                                                                                                      
          Delete "as provided by"                                                                                               
          Insert "required under"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 14, following "(I)":                                                                                          
          Delete "a"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete ", including the report required by"                                                                           
          Insert "and the report required under"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "a resolution"                                                                                                 
          Insert "an ordinance"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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          Following "report":                                                                                                   
          Insert "required"                                                                                                     
          Following "AS 29.49.070":                                                                                             
          Insert ", which may be incorporated by reference"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, lines 25 - 29:                                                                                                     
          Delete all material.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. THERRIAULT directed attention to  Version W, page 4, line 30,                                                               
and stated that the word  "resolution" has been replaced with the                                                               
word "ordinance,"  and on  page 5, lines  5-9, language  has been                                                               
struck.  Again,  AEA agreed that the amendment  has been properly                                                               
incorporated.   The  CS also  includes a  number of  other small,                                                               
stylistic  changes  recommended  by  Legislative  Legal  Services                                                               
(LLS), Legislative Affairs Agency.   Finally, LLS suggested - and                                                               
AEA agreed  - that remaining  questions about the  bill regarding                                                               
the proposed powers  of municipalities could be  addressed in the                                                               
next  committee of  referral, the  House  Community and  Regional                                                               
Affairs  Standing  Committee.   In  that  regard, Mr.  Therriault                                                               
advised  that the  administration has  no intention  to expand  a                                                               
municipality's  power  of  taxation  beyond  that  which  already                                                               
exists.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:22:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ  directed attention to letters  in the committee                                                               
packet from the Alaska Bankers  Association and AEA in support of                                                               
the bill.  She read a  letter from the Alaska Bankers Association                                                               
dated 3/16/15 in part:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Mortgage  holders  have  a  provision  that  safeguards                                                                    
     their  interest  starting line  31,  page  6:   Section                                                                    
     29.49.080.  Notice  of  mortgage  holder  required  for                                                                    
     participation.  Before a municipality  may enter into a                                                                    
     written  contract  ...  with a  record  owner  of  real                                                                    
     property  to   impose  an   assessment  to   repay  the                                                                    
     financing of  a qualified  project under  this chapter,                                                                    
     the property owner shall give  the holder of a mortgage                                                                    
     lien on the property at least 30 days' written notice.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ  suggested the  following technical change:   by                                                               
certified mail.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:24:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER  removed his objection.   Co-Chair  Colver [moved                                                               
to report  CSHB 118, Version  29-GH1021\W, Shutts,  3/21/15], out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying zero  fiscal note.   There being no  objection, CSHB
118(ENE)  was reported  out  of the  House  Special Committee  on                                                               
Energy.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Co-Chair Colver passed the gavel to Co-Chair Vazquez.]                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:25:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at ease from 10:25 a.m. to 10:32 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  RESOURCES ENERGY, INC.                                                                                          
             PRESENTATION:  RESOURCES ENERGY, INC.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:32:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ announced that the  next order of business would                                                               
be a presentation by Resources Energy, Inc.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:33:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARY  ANN  PEASE, Vice  President  &  General Manager,  Resources                                                               
Energy,  Inc.  (REI),  informed   the  committee  the  [Fukushima                                                               
Daiichi nuclear disaster]  in March 2011, was  the starting point                                                               
for REI  due to the  Japanese government's interest  in replacing                                                               
nuclear  power  with  imported liquefied  natural  gas  (LNG)  in                                                               
Japan.  Alaska came to the  forefront as a source for LNG because                                                               
of  a long  history of  participation  by trading  houses in  the                                                               
Trans-Alaska Pipeline  System (TAPS).   The focus of  the project                                                               
has  now  become the  Cook  Inlet  because  of its  stranded  gas                                                               
reserves,  demand  for  its  gas  from  the  utilities,  and  the                                                               
incentive for  increased exploration  and development  that would                                                               
come with  a small-scale export  project planning to  deliver gas                                                               
to  market prior  to 2020.   She  noted that  the proposed  plant                                                               
would deliver  LNG not  only to  the export  market, but  also to                                                               
demands for LNG within Alaska (slide 3).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:35:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  advised there are government  to government agreements                                                               
in  place between  the Alaska  Industrial Development  and Export                                                               
Authority (AIDEA),  Department of Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development (DCCED),  the governor's  office, and  the Department                                                               
of Natural  Resources (DNR), along  with agreements  with several                                                               
Native  organizations.   In  addition,  proposed Japanese  buyers                                                               
include city gas and electric  utilities, and industrial users in                                                               
a changing marketplace in Japan  for LNG.  Joint venture partners                                                               
are an important  component of the project - in  Japan and in the                                                               
U.S.  (slide  4).    Ms.  Pease presented  a  timeline  of  REI's                                                               
activities  dating from  2011 through  2014.   Most recently,  in                                                               
December  2014,  REI  signed a  cooperation  agreement  with  the                                                               
governor's   office  and   continues   to  work   under  a   cost                                                               
reimbursement  agreement  with  AIDEA.    These  agreements  have                                                               
provided beneficial analyses on  economic options for the project                                                               
(slide 5).  Resource Energy  Inc.'s proposed Greenfield LNG plant                                                               
would be located on private  land adjacent to Port MacKenzie, and                                                               
geotechnical  work has  begun at  the  site to  ensure that  soil                                                               
conditions  are  appropriate.   Also,  Cook  Inlet reservoir  and                                                               
production analyses have  been completed.  Ms.  Pease pointed out                                                               
that  the  timeline is  critical  in  order  to ensure  that  the                                                               
project can  deliver LNG for export  to Japan by 2020  (slide 6).                                                               
A recent  U.S. Geological Survey  report showed Cook  Inlet holds                                                               
19 trillion  cubic feet  (tcf) of gas  potential, but  to realize                                                               
this potential Cook Inlet producers  need to aggregate production                                                               
and bring  together smaller  independent producers.   This  is an                                                               
opportunity  for  independent   Cook  Inlet  producers  including                                                               
NordAq Energy  Inc., Cook Inlet  Energy, Furie  Operating Alaska,                                                               
Buccaneer   Energy/Cosmopolitan,  and   Hilcorp   Alaska.     She                                                               
acknowledged that the production  from individual companies, with                                                               
the  exception of  Hilcorp, could  not supply  160 million  cubic                                                               
feet per  day of  gas (mmcfd)  which is  needed for  the proposed                                                               
project, therefore  the project requires an  aggregation concept.                                                               
Some of the required infrastructure  is already in place, such as                                                               
that of  the electric utilities,  although the  proposed location                                                               
in  Port MacKenzie  would  require an  additional  nine miles  of                                                               
pipeline  to bring  the gas  to tidewater  (slides 7  and 8).   A                                                               
detailed reservoir,  economic, and production  study demonstrated                                                               
on a  proved and probable (2P)  basis that the range  of reserves                                                               
in the Cook Inlet would be  sufficient to meet the utility demand                                                               
of the  Railbelt for 20-25  years, in  addition to the  demand of                                                               
the LNG  export project.   She  restated REI's  guiding principle                                                               
that gas  needed in Alaska can  be taken from the  proposed plant                                                               
at  any time  (slide  9).   A  graph showed  the  results of  the                                                               
reserve study  completed by Dr.  Michael Donnelly,  Global Energy                                                               
Consultancy  (slide  10).   Ms.  Pease  observed that  additional                                                               
drilling  and exploration  by independents  would produce  excess                                                               
reserves that  would be available  for the base furthload  of the                                                               
project; in addition, other areas  would be opened to exploration                                                               
by the completion of a new pipeline.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:43:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE turned  to the concept of building a  module LNG plant.                                                               
Studies  have suggested  considering the  General Electric  Oil &                                                               
Gas (GE) module  LNG plant, and the Samsung  Heavy Industries and                                                               
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.  (APCI) modules (slide 11).  She                                                               
explained that  modular construction is preferred  for Cook Inlet                                                               
due  to the  cost of  labor,  engineering, and  design needed  to                                                               
construct a  "stick built" facility.   Modular units are  easy to                                                               
transport and deploy (slide 12).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  asked for an  estimate of the cost  of the                                                               
LNG facility.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE said the current cost  estimate for the LNG plant is at                                                               
a  plus or  minus  50 percent;  after  the front-end  engineering                                                               
design (FEED) phase, the cost  estimate improves to plus or minus                                                               
10 percent.  At this time,  the estimate is $1.8 billion to build                                                               
a one million ton plant, which  is approximately the same size as                                                               
the  existing ConocoPhillips  Alaska, Inc.  plant in  Kenai.   In                                                               
further response  to Representative  Claman, she agreed  that the                                                               
plant  is  considerably  smaller  than that  of  the  Alaska  LNG                                                               
(AKLNG) project.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE restated  the importance of a smaller  project that can                                                               
be  started  in a  short  period  of  time to  continue  Alaska's                                                               
relationship in  exporting LNG  to Japan for  the last  45 years.                                                               
She  identified  contractors  that are  providing  technical  and                                                               
feasibility  services  (slide  13).     Turning  to  the  project                                                               
schedule, she pointed  out that June 2015, is the  target for the                                                               
start  of FEED.    The project  is in  contact  with the  Federal                                                               
Energy Regulatory  Commission (FERC)  and the U.S.  Department of                                                               
Energy (DOE),  and anticipates pre-filing the  DOE application in                                                               
2015  as well.   Pre-filing  and formal  application to  FERC are                                                               
targeted   for  2016,   and   the   engineer,  procurement,   and                                                               
construction  (EPC) contract  is  targeted  for 2017-2018  (slide                                                               
14).  Advantages that Alaska  holds over competitors are:  forty-                                                               
five  year track  record of  delivering LNG  to Japan;   shipping                                                               
time  of  nine  days;  avoid  Panama  Canal  toll  which  adds  a                                                               
surcharge; no controversy over conventional gas (slide 15).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:49:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER asked about competition from British Columbia.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE  said REI  is  closely  monitoring Canadian  projects;                                                               
however,  Japanese buyers  have seen  delays in  Canada and  some                                                               
projects have stalled  due to First Nation issues,  thus there is                                                               
uncertainty, and a strong focus  remains on a supply from Alaska.                                                               
Although  projects  in  Texas,   Louisiana,  and  Oregon  may  be                                                               
competitive,  all have  problems with  the applicable  regulatory                                                               
regimes  and high  construction  costs.   She  has  heard that  a                                                               
small, modularized  approach - that can  expand - is the  wave of                                                               
the future; furthermore, LNG projects look at a 20-year supply.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  how  much LNG  is currently  exported                                                               
from Alaska to Japan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE will supply this information to the committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:52:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE, in  response to Co-Chair Vazquez,  said Alaska's track                                                               
record with Japan stems from  the existing ConocoPhillips Alaska,                                                               
Inc. plant in  Cook Inlet which provided  an uninterrupted supply                                                               
of  gas.   She  opined  Japan's industry  and  its utilities  are                                                               
interested in continuing this relationship.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:54:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
EIJI  MAEZAWA,   Executive  Vice  President  &   Chief  Operating                                                               
Officer,  Resources  Energy,  Inc., informed  the  committee  the                                                               
demand for  natural gas  worldwide is  260 million  metric tonnes                                                               
per annum (mmtpa), of which Asia  buys 65 percent (slide 17).  At                                                               
this time, about 86 mmtpa of  LNG are imported to Japan, although                                                               
between 2012 and  2015 demand is in decline due  to the Fukushima                                                               
Daiichi  nuclear disaster.    Mr. Maezawa  said  the demand  will                                                               
return to a normal  level of about 76 mmtpa in  2015, and by 2020                                                               
there will be  a gap between supply and demand  of 8 mmtpa, which                                                               
is a window of opportunity for the REI project.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  pointed out  the 8  [mmtpa] gap  in 2020  increases to                                                               
over 51 mmtpa in 2030 (slide 17).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA,  in response to  Co-Chair Vazquez, provided  a brief                                                               
background  of  his  experience   working  on  international  gas                                                               
projects in Indonesia, Malaysia, and  Canada.  He also worked for                                                               
a Japanese oil  and gas exploration company, and has  40 years of                                                               
experience in  oil projects,  and 30 years  of experience  in all                                                               
facets of the LNG industry worldwide.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:59:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  asked  for  the cause  of  the  declining                                                               
supply of LNG as shown on slide 17.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA explained  that some of the supply gap  is due to the                                                               
potential  expiration  of  existing  long-term  contracts.    For                                                               
example, Indonesian  long-term contracts will expire  in 2025, so                                                               
Alaska must compete  with other countries that can  be expand and                                                               
extend existing contracts.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN   observed  that  the   chart  illustrates                                                               
contracts  that  are expiring,  but  is  not  a projection  of  a                                                               
decline in the worldwide supply of natural gas.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAEZAWA presented  a graph  comparing  the price  of LNG  in                                                               
Japan, the United Kingdom, and the  U.S. from 2001 to 2014, prior                                                               
to the decline of crude oil  prices.  In October 2014, the landed                                                               
price of LNG in Japan cost  about $16 per million British thermal                                                               
units (mmBtu).   In comparison with the Henry Hub  price of about                                                               
$4 per mmBtu,  the cost in Japan  is much higher.   At this time,                                                               
the price is about $10 per mmBtu in Japan (slide 18).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER asked  for an  overview of  how competitive  the                                                               
price  of Alaska's  gas must  be  to compete  with Japan's  other                                                               
sources such as Australia and Qatar.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA said marine transportation  is nearest from Alaska to                                                               
Japan,  and  estimated  the transportation  cost  to  Japan  from                                                               
Alaska to  be between $1 per  mmBtu to $2 per  mmBtu, compared to                                                               
$3 per mmBtu for gas transported through the Panama Canal.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:04:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER  surmised REI  is looking for  a gas  supply from                                                               
Alaska because  Alaska gains a  $2 per mmBtu advantage  in marine                                                               
transportation over the West Coast.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAEZAWA advised  this  is one  advantage  from the  Japanese                                                               
point of view,  in addition, Japanese buyers need  a stable price                                                               
and long-term contracts.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ  raised the importance  of national  security to                                                               
purchasers.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA said that is the most important aspect.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER  inquired as to  the status of  negotiations with                                                               
Cook  Inlet  producers for  long-term  supplies  of gas  for  the                                                               
proposed plant.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:05:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  said discussions  with Cook  Inlet producers  are very                                                               
positive, and  REI has  letters of interest  in supplying  gas to                                                               
the project  for export; the  project is not through  FEED stage,                                                               
although  positive discussions  continue  with every  one of  the                                                               
Cook Inlet producers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL   returned  attention   to  slide   17,  and                                                               
questioned  whether the  price Alaska  could offer  for long-term                                                               
contracts in 2025 would be a factor.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE said absolutely.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL directed  attention to  slide 18,  and asked                                                               
whether the decline  in the price of Japanese  LNG Cocktail (JLC)                                                               
is  due to  the decline  in the  price of  crude oil,  or due  to                                                               
transportation cost.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA said  the price of Japanese LNG Cocktail  is based on                                                               
the price of  Japan Crude Cocktail (JCC).  There  is a mitigation                                                               
mechanism in the pricing formula -  to protect the seller and the                                                               
buyer - through the negotiation of long-term contracts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:09:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE added  that at  the  LNG Producer-Consumer  Conference                                                               
2014,  held  in  Tokyo,  LNG  buyers  and  governmental  entities                                                               
discussed  the  need  for a  new  competitive-based  LNG  pricing                                                               
formula.   The  traditional link  to  oil prices  is changing  as                                                               
Japan has invested  in many projects, which serves  to bring down                                                               
the prices.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:11:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at ease from 11:11 a.m. to 11:23 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:23:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA  provided a map  that illustrated the  electric power                                                               
and city  gas companies  from Hokkaido  Electric Power  to Kyushu                                                               
Electric Power (slide 19).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE pointed  out a typographical error on slide  19:  Sudan                                                               
should read Oman.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA  said Tokyo Electric  Power and Chubu  Electric Power                                                               
recently  merged for  the  joint  procurement of  LNG.   The  two                                                               
companies  entered   in  a  joint   venture  agreement,   and  he                                                               
characterized this  as a major  event related to  power companies                                                               
in Japan.  It is anticipated  that in 10 years, Japan's total LNG                                                               
imports  will be  about 90  mmtpa,  of which  Tokyo Electric  and                                                               
Chubu Electric demand would be 40 mmtpa (slide 20).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA noted that REI is  focusing on providing to the Kyoto                                                               
and Hyogo  Prefecture Governments  one million  tons of  LNG from                                                               
Cook Inlet  after the  deregulation of  electricity and  city gas                                                               
business in  2020 (slide 20).   He  pointed out that  after 2016,                                                               
retail markets  will be  open to competition,  and in  2017, city                                                               
gas  retail markets  will  be open;  in 2020,  there  will be  an                                                               
"unbundling of  electricity transmission lines."   This means the                                                               
electric  power  transmission lines  will  be  utilized by  third                                                               
parties, and there  will be third party access  to LNG terminals.                                                               
Thus  the prefecture  governments  have taken  the initiative  to                                                               
form  a private  public  partnership (PPP)  to  construct an  LNG                                                               
terminal and  power plant  to consume about  one million  tons of                                                               
LNG from  Cook Inlet (slide  33).   In Japan, most  LNG terminals                                                               
are located on the Pacific  Ocean.  After the Fukushima disaster,                                                               
the  Japanese  government took  the  initiative  to strengthen  a                                                               
national resilience  plan, and  one step is  to construct  an LNG                                                               
terminal.   The project will  consist of  a terminal and  a power                                                               
plant  for city  gas and  industrial gas  sales.   The prefecture                                                               
also will  form a  PPP project  (slide 20).   The  basic business                                                               
model is  to form a PPP-type  organization for an LNG  project in                                                               
the cities of Maizuru in the  Kyoto Prefecture and in the city of                                                               
Hirohata  in the  Hyogo Prefecture.     The LNG  receiving volume                                                               
will  be 500,000  tons for  each  city.   The total  cost of  the                                                               
receiving  terminals and  power plants  on the  Japan seaside  is                                                               
equal  to $1  billion  for  each project.    In  addition, a  100                                                               
kilometer pipeline is planned from Kyoto to Hyogo (slide 21).                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:32:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE pointed  out that  in  terms of  the proposed  project                                                               
structure,   there  are   many  needed   components.     For  the                                                               
liquefaction  facility, in  addition to  the Japanese  investors,                                                               
there will have to be a  competent U.S. operator joining with REI                                                               
on the project,  a consortium of Japanese  banks participating in                                                               
the project, and other equity  investors from the U.S. and Japan.                                                               
Other components necessary are the  gas suppliers from Cook Inlet                                                               
and, later on,  from other parts of Alaska such  as the Foothills                                                               
region (slide 22).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER asked about REI's corporate ownership structure.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE  answered REI  is  a  Delaware-based corporation  with                                                               
offices in Anchorage.  The  corporation is wholly owned by Energy                                                               
Resources,  Inc.,   (ERI)  in  Tokyo.     The   Hyogo  Prefecture                                                               
Governments established ERI, along  with other Japanese investors                                                               
and  corporations.    Energy  Resources,  Inc.  has  a  board  of                                                               
directors, and the  project is being driven by  its investors and                                                               
buyers  interested  in  seeing if  the  project  is  economically                                                               
viable in  terms of delivering  LNG to  Japan.  Involved  are the                                                               
governments of  Kyoto and Hyogo,  many industrial  customers, the                                                               
city and gas companies, and other entities.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER asked  about the source of REI's  capital and its                                                               
access to equity resources for this project.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA said ERI shareholders are  from one of the biggest LP                                                               
gas wholesalers in Japan, are  who are interested in new business                                                               
with LNG, and other investors are being solicited.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  added that discussions are  underway and confidential,                                                               
but she assured  the committee that the  prospective entities are                                                               
familiar with Alaska and the project.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ asked for the estimated cost of the project.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:36:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE described  the project in three parts:   The first part                                                               
is the upstream  side which can happen by  acquisition, a farm-in                                                               
agreement, or  gas sales contracts.   The cost of  an acquisition                                                               
would  be approximately  a $1  billion investment;  on the  other                                                               
hand, gas  sales contracts would  be based  on the price  of gas.                                                               
The  other  part  of  the  project is  the  LNG  plant  including                                                               
storage,  power  plant,  and marine  facilities,  which  have  an                                                               
approximate cost of $1.8 billion.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA, in further response  to Co-Chair Vazquez, said there                                                               
are 10 members  on the board of directors, with  30 staff members                                                               
in  Tokyo who  are experienced  in LNG  projects' promotion  from                                                               
upstream  to  marketing  operations,  including  engineering  and                                                               
marine transportation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  VAZQUEZ asked  what interests  are  represented by  the                                                               
members of the board.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:38:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA said  (Indisc.).  The REI advisory  board chairman is                                                               
David  Marchin (ph),  formerly of  Occidental Oil  and Gas,  [Mr.                                                               
Maezawa] is  the executive vice  president and COO,  and Shunichi                                                               
Shimizu is president and CEO.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  turned to the  subject of the regulatory  schedule for                                                               
project development.  On a  positive note, the federal government                                                               
will not be an obstacle to  Alaska gas exports, although the "all                                                               
in" regulatory  schedule can  take two  years.   Furthermore, DOE                                                               
and FERC  have provided valuable  guidance to REI on  the project                                                               
(slide 24-26).   Locating at  Port MacKenzie is important  to REI                                                               
because  the proposed  property is  near the  existing port,  and                                                               
would provide  easy access to loading  and offloading facilities.                                                               
She pointed out  that an LNG export facility cannot  have a joint                                                               
use  dock, but  must use  a  dedicated barge  and dock  facility;                                                               
however,  the   dock  at  Port   MacKenzie  could  be   used  for                                                               
transporting  supplies and  there  is road  access  and a  nearby                                                               
workforce (slide 27).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER observed  that  the proposed  LNG modular  plant                                                               
would be  sited at Port  MacKenzie on  private land with  its own                                                               
dock.   Currently, the proposed  AKLNG project route is  60 miles                                                               
west, and  he asked how AKLNG  would affect the REI  project, and                                                               
whether  REI  could finance  a  spur  pipeline  to link  the  two                                                               
proposed projects.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE acknowledged  the other  proposed projects,  AKLNG and                                                               
the  Alaska Stand  Alone Pipeline  (ASAP).   There is  a distance                                                               
advantage  to  connecting  with   ASAP;  however,  an  additional                                                               
pipeline  of any  distance affects  the economics  of a  project.                                                               
Furthermore, agreements are required for  an offtake point at any                                                               
certain location.  She clarified  that developing North Slope gas                                                               
is complementary  to the  REI proposal  because other  regions of                                                               
the state have vast gas resources for development.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:44:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR COLVER understood that for  AKLNG the state will take 25                                                               
percent of  its royalty  and production taxes  in gas,  and asked                                                               
whether REI seeks to acquire access to royalty gas.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE said no; however,  REI participated in two open seasons                                                               
and a solicitation of interest on the larger project.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN asked for  clarification on the location of                                                               
the proposed LNG plant.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE said Port MacKenzie has been chosen as the site.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ asked  whether Ms. Pease had  studied the beluga                                                               
whale  population  in  Cook Inlet  and  anticipated  any  related                                                               
problems.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:47:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  said she  has experience in  critical habitat  and the                                                               
Endangered Species  Act from her  participation in  the extensive                                                               
studies  process  for  the  "ports projects"  and  the  Knik  Arm                                                               
Crossing.   There are clear  indications that  infrastructure and                                                               
critical habitat can  coexist if done property.   She opined this                                                               
is not an  obstacle for the project; in  fact, accommodations can                                                               
be made as this is a land-based project.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  inquired as  to whether  the Port  of Valdez                                                               
was considered by a feasibility study.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE  answered that  one of  REI's first  studies identified                                                               
Valdez as a preferred option on a much larger-scale project.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE, in  response  to Co-Chair  Vazquez,  said the  stated                                                               
timeframe for completion of the project  is to have the first LNG                                                               
deliveries  in 2020.   She  returned to  the next  steps for  the                                                               
project, pointing out  that the KBR Inc. study  and cost estimate                                                               
have been completed,  and the next step  is front-end engineering                                                               
design (FEED).  She restated that  REI has acquired a land option                                                               
agreement valid through December 2015.   Discussions with DOE and                                                               
FERC  are  continuing,  and  completion   of  the  joint  venture                                                               
partners are in  the final phases.  The start  date for FEED will                                                               
be  moved to  June,  along with  definitive market  participants,                                                               
certainty of  gas supply, and financial  arrangements (slide 29).                                                               
Ms.  Pease  provided REI  contact  information  to the  committee                                                               
(slide 30).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAEZAWA  informed the committee  that Qatar is  currently the                                                               
largest supplier of  LNG to Japan, closely  followed by Australia                                                               
(slide 34).                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:52:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. PEASE, in  response to Co-Chair Vazquez, said  Alaska has the                                                               
potential to  supply a significant  amount.  In  further response                                                               
to  Co-Chair Vazquez,  she  said the  constraints  to making  the                                                               
proposed  project a  bigger project  are  the quick  construction                                                               
timeline  and utilizing  Cook  Inlet gas,  which  is limited  and                                                               
reserves must  be brought  into production.   The next  hurdle is                                                               
the  alignment  of pipelines  when  North  Slope, Foothills,  and                                                               
outer continental  shelf (OCS)  gas becomes  available.   At that                                                               
point, modularized facilities can be easily expanded.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  COLVER  asked  how  the  legislature  can  support  the                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE said  REI has  a productive  relationship with  AIDEA.                                                               
She opined  the legislature can  assist with  regulatory hurdles,                                                               
and ensure the  project has a voice in order  to participate with                                                               
other pipeline projects.   Ms. Pease offered  that REI represents                                                               
market potential  with opportunities  for major growth.   Working                                                               
in concert  with ASAP and  AKLGN is  important, and REI  seeks to                                                               
inform the other  projects of the opportunities  presented by the                                                               
robust Japan market.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR VAZQUEZ  asked what  hurdles arise  within the  next six                                                               
months to one year.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PEASE  returned attention  to  the  HDR Regulatory  Schedule                                                               
which illustrated  the regulatory  and permitting  process (slide                                                               
26).   There are many  entities to  contact; she said  the Alaska                                                               
Gasline Development  Corporation is an example  of a governmental                                                               
entity  that  is  successful  in its  endeavors,  and  REI  would                                                               
benefit  from an  Alaska-based sponsor  to  help with  permitting                                                               
issues such as  critical habitat.  She expressed  her belief that                                                               
an export project  focused on jobs and  economic development, and                                                               
that will  also provide  energy in-state, makes  a promise  and a                                                               
commitment  to the  state.   Finally, Japanese  engineers have  a                                                               
working knowledge of how to  transport LNG in intermodal shipping                                                               
(ISO) containers on railcars, barges, and trucks.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:58:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 11:58 a.m.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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